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x64600 · Dec 08, 2006, 10:46 AM // 10:46

lol the Baseball reference is great. Factions did not sit well with me either.

Thank you very much for all of your responses. It has given me quite a bit to think about.

I have noticed though that there is more cons then pros so far. So I decided to showcase a few good considerations to buy it.

Guild wars is one of the most beautifully rendered games I have ever played on the PC. The Graphics, have been gorgeous. For me graphics alone do not make for a great game. But we should all take more time in appreciation for the artistry, & beauty of guild wars. I thank the creators of Guild Wars for giving us such a gorgeous work of art in the game of Guild Wars.

Playing with or against friends in Guild Wars has been a joy which has filled many hours of game play. It is true that many of my friends have been absent from the game in recent months. I still see great potential of Guild Wars as being most excellent in providing a forum for friends to play an online game together.

Even though there are many frustrations to take note of. Guild Wars was, & still is likely better then any other comparable game in its genre. Some of them may possess gorgeous graphics, & intriguing concepts in their own right. However most of these other games demand a toll in order to fill the many hours of half baked enjoyment you can squeeze from them.

Guild Wars provides a high quality community forum service which is offered free of charge beyond the initial purchase. We should give credit where credit is due. I have played the value of this game a hundred fold in hours of play time over the past couple years. Even if the current state of the game is frustrating. The value it provides is still unparalleled.

I still will likely not buy the next chapter. But the future is not written in stone. With your help in this forum I have changed my perspective from Not buying it, to waiting to see if the game improves before making that consideration. Thank you very much for the constructive responses to my quarry. It has been of great help with my deliberations.

Bhaaltazar · Dec 08, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

When i got myself Prophecies i played em for 6 months before i was getting slowly bored, but i continue playing ( little farming here and than and so on ), OK than I got my self Faction on release and i got bored with it after 3 months ( i played threw only with my old ranger and new Rt and Assa ), now i bought NF because i really thought they did something good to PvE when they advertised those big improvements in PVE - at the end i got bored with NF after a month because everything was the same old senn and done before. I hardly struggeled threw NF to the end with my main char ( not because it was so hard it was because i didnt find any motivation to finish it )

If Anet will continue with balancing pve for the benefits of PvP ( and on damge to PvE experiance ) than i most certanly wont buy another chapter. I understand they made PvP oriented game, but if they want to keep their player base high than they will need to do something about PvE, afterall majority of player base here is PvE and Anet knows that ( they said that in some interview month or two before NF release ).

I play GW mostly because its the only free MMO around. If there will come another PvE free MMO ( which i doubt unfortunatlly

) i would switch to another game.

You could guess from my post I am PvE player mostly because PvP to me is even more stale ( I played lots of pvp in D2 so it all seems alike ) like fantasy CS which i dont like, but that doesnt mean I meant any disrespect towards PvP comunity. I dont want to start any flames or something.

Sents · Dec 08, 2006, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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I play GW mostly because its the only free MMO around. If there will come another PvE free MMO ( which i doubt unfortunatlly ) i would switch to another game.

Is it really free ? Think about it, you've,according to your post, bought three games in the space of what ?? 12 months ? Its brilliant on Anets part, get people too think they are getting something for nothing, and just keep hammering em with "New Releases", so lets see, 59.99+59.99+59.99=179.97/12=14.97 a month, so ???? Free , whatever!!
I bought Prophecies, played non stop till the release of Factions, where I played the preview weekend, and said WTF happened to the great game they started with, and apparentley reading about the DeadZone that is Cantha, a lot of others felt the same way.
So now what you have is a company trying their best to squeeze every last dime they can from a formula that works, while trying at the same time to hold on to as many of the original customers as possible.
Do you think they care that you only played the succesive titles 1/4 of the time you played the original game, no they are happy about it, they sold you the game(all of em), and got you off the server load, bonus for Anet.
The bottom line is MONEY, when GW stops being the great cash cow that it is for Anet, you'll see the game die, but until then, you can expect a new watered down release every 4-5 months, and if you think they are going to get any better, than you are just what the doctor ordered for Anet.
Realistically, what can you expect, not much.
I said it right after I first got the game, GuildWars is basically a first person shooter with swords and bows, how far can they take that ?

Locke- · Dec 08, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

I'll defenitely buy it. I PvP . And I <3 it ^^.

B Ephekt · Dec 08, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01

I will continue buying chapters until Anet screws up GvG (like they did to tombs).

Vermilion · Dec 08, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by B Ephekt

I will continue buying chapters until Anet screws up GvG (like they did to tombs).

/agree

Fluffyx · Dec 08, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Yes, I will buy the next chapter. Though if it is not going to bring about some changes it will be my last Guild Wars game. I say this as a player who has been playing since Prophecies that certain elements of the game need to be improved. The whole push to level 20 in the last two games makes part of the game feel rushed. PvE isn't about fighting lvl 24 monsters from the get go. Its about leveling up with the game meeting monsters relative to your own level. Now don't get me wrong I don't think Guild Wars is difficult even at its highest levels of play its still relatively simple. Also heroes have killed much of the interactivity between players now for some of you who hate pugs thats fine. But I feel that more players enjoy playing with people and not with hero/henchmen teams. There needs to be more focus on the community and more focus and the gameplay. Correcting problems instead of just nerfing them. possibly going back and fixing older problems too.

noir0 · Dec 08, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by Sents

Is it really free ? Think about it, you've,according to your post, bought three games in the space of what ?? 12 months ? Its brilliant on Anets part, get people too think they are getting something for nothing, and just keep hammering em with "New Releases", so lets see, 59.99+59.99+59.99=179.97/12=14.97 a month, so ???? Free , whatever!!
*snipped part of post*

Thing is, you arn't forced to pay for new installments, of course people who enjoyed the game will, that isn't really the point(Although that is quite clever of anet). If you don't buy a new installment.. will your account get deleted like it would on other p2p games? Nope. I like how i'm liscensed to play guild wars all i want till 2097 >_>.

Sephiroth Istari · Dec 08, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

yes...

majeh456 · Dec 09, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03

I REALLY wish I didn't buy NF...

Personally, I like Prophecies and Factions the most. The only reason I like Factions was because they added 2 really well-built classes.

I don't care what anyone says, assassins are amazing. I practiced and practiced, and eventually became very proficient with an assassin and saw all the different things they could do. The new classes of NF, dervish and paragon(excluding paragon from this because I have yet to play with one), seem kinda sloppy and unexciting...yeah, I know, "you get to swing a sythe around!!!" I personally think that dervishes really aren't that creative when compared to what sins and rits brought to the table. When sins came, all of a sudden casters really had to watch their asses and a boat load of new builds were created to help the caster defend themselves from sins (some specialising in killing them even). When rits came, a new type of healer was introduced, and support from them could change whole battles, to say the least. The dervishes, IMO, really haven't brought anything really new to the table. Paragons on the other hand (remember, I haven't had much experience in using and dealing with them), really seem to be quite interesting. They bring "take-with-you" support that can seriously empower a group.

The only reason that I would ever buy the next chapter was if they created classes that really changed the way that battle is done.

floppinghog · Dec 09, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Anet really gives me this weird feeling with the new chapters. its always a surprise with them, even if you tell me all about it before hand, getting into the game and playing is still a joy. So, yes i will be buying the next chapter for sure.

i like the heroes and all but still, i cant seem to find pugs as often as i wanted because of them. its always a nice laugh to join a pug and manage to pull it through when you can tell.. they are ALL clueless beyond belief.

rumored was what, Mayas and Aztecs themed? just what type of classes can you pull out of a hat for that...? I'm sorta thinking a bout a fencer from Spain some how....why? and i guess something like a topic around in the suggestions area had an idea about sacrificing health like a mad man...

well its interesting enough for me!

garethporlest18 · Dec 09, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

It'll have to really interest me, and be almost totally different than any of the past games. If the new professions are fun, that'll help too. Also if there is a non grinding/non money needed fun goal to strive for, otherwise I might not. Then again if friends get it, I might just have to sometime later so I can play with them.

The new area isn't really fun either, you can't do it by yourself and have a non frustrating time doing it, and the PUGs are all using or will be using cookie cutter builds, so I had no fun with it. I don't care about elite areas really, I just need an area that changes a bit, gives me money and has fun monsters instead of boring ones. I like playing solo, but I don't like to all the time, that's not why I got an online game. To be with people I gotta go start talking in towns, because barely anyone wants to PUG for missions.

Aegeroth · Dec 09, 2006, 08:06 AM // 08:06

I havent been keeping up with news it seems;
theres gonna be a Guild Wars 4?
100% certain?

generik · Dec 09, 2006, 08:13 AM // 08:13

$50 is too much to pay for a few new texture maps and some new polygons.

Change the underlying game mechanics, maybe.
If it carries on like this, even the most fanboish fanbois will feel the grind at some point.

King Kong · Dec 09, 2006, 08:27 AM // 08:27

I'm just gonna wait till the preview then decide. I want there to be more stuff to do, once you complete GW thats it! And you stand around bored all day

Everyone talks about WoW, maybe its time to give that a try

ectospasm · Dec 09, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06

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Originally Posted by x64600

Are you planning on buying the next chapter of Guild Wars after Night Fall?

I am not. This is why.

1. The chapters are creating diffusion of the player community. The loss of players is Ubiquitous in most areas of the game where solo play is undesirable. It is hurting the game more then anything else.

2. I have lost faith in game play being fun. Solo play is becoming unfeasible with the broken AI. I tend to solo because I have a lack of people to play with. Solo play has been ruined with the end game of Night Fall. Game play should never be so frustrating that I have to stop playing before I become angry.

3. I have lost faith in Guild Wars getting any better. The trends to counter mandate any creative tactics players develop to move efficiently throughout the game has been unyielding for any evidence of game play allowing for the freedom that drew me to guild wars to begin with. While alone this issue does not warrant a great deal of distress. When coupled with the others it resounds with impalpable value.

4. Solo play is diminished while team play is scarce. Not even the novel Heroes can grasp the tactics considered necessary associated with some vital builds. I observed Dunkoro kill himself with Offering of Blood. Zhed shadow hoof was noted killing himself with Ether Prodigy. They are not capable of timing, or using skills in tactful sequence.

5. The impression that I am being embittered is distressing. With the majority of games there is the tendency for the game to cheat in order to create the illusion of a challenge. With the continued efforts to diminish viable tactics forcing players to conform to stipulated tactics in order to play while creating overwhelming situations that limit the enjoyment of the game. I feel that the value of the game is greatly reduced of any actual viable intrigue.

True this sounds like more complaining.

The goal of this post is not to complain. It is to see if there is anyone else with points for, & counter points as to staying the course within Guild Wars. I want the desires of the players to speak true. If I do not belong in this community because it differs in desire with my ideal enjoyment of the sequential development of Guild Wars I want to know in order to assist me in making the decision of weather or not I should stop playing Guild Wars.

quoted so i dont have to say it myself.
AND NO I AM NOT BUYING THE NEXT CHAPTER EITHER.
due to whats stated above + ruined farming, crap drops, stupid AI, and much more that i care less to waste energy typing about.
id rather get ut2k7 (and thats really bad me saying that cause i hate 2k4 & the course epic games took just the same)

Ninna · Dec 09, 2006, 09:29 AM // 09:29

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Originally Posted by Sents

GuildWars is basically a first person shooter with swords and bows, how far can they take that ?

ya right -- I dont like FPS

but I enjoy GW

its my online RPG of choice (I'm bored of Everquest, WoW, DAOC)

Superdarth · Dec 09, 2006, 09:47 AM // 09:47

I probably will,why?

1:Almost everyone will buy the new expansion, wich means you will have VERY little people to play with if you play the old chapters.

2: Despite alot of things being in the game already,i still enjoy the new expansions,wich bring changhes,challenges and an intriguing story.

3:How many times can you play the old chapters before you feel youve had enough?

garethporlest18 · Dec 09, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

I probably will,why?

3:How many times can you play the old chapters before you feel youve had enough?

Prophecies? Played until NF came out, back and forth. This was the best one.

Factions? Played until NF came out, went to Prophecies like 3 months after though. I liked the new weapons, that's about my only reason for playing..chests.

Nightfall? I'm done with it now, to boring, made it through with one character. It's like a downgraded version of Prophecies with nice looking environments. I'd only play for chest runs now, or to kill things if I'm extremely bored with everything else.

So unless Guild Wars becomes totally different, or the next chapter looks really really fun..not a chance in this world, a blue hell or Samuel L Jacksons boot, that I'm going to get Ch 4.

the_jos · Dec 09, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56

I probably will.
Not sure if I will buy it on release date (as I did with Nightfall), or wait a few weeks/months (like Factions).
The thing that bothers me is time.
I 'want' protectors on my 4 core characters for each chapter and for the 2 other characters I want protectors on their continent.
So that means playing a lot.
And I also want to help others getting their titles, so I can be found on earlier missions helping others.

With the addition of a new chapter, that means getting 6 characters through the game. I'm progressing them at about the same time, in Nightfall all 6 are about halfway.
At the current speed, that means playing several more months before they all have protectors.

At this moment, I don't play my Rt and Sin because I just don't have the time.
They make great mules, but that's not why they are created....

I guess, when I get protectors on at least my four core characters before the next release, I probably buy on release date. When not, I just wait a couple of weeks.